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咁我仲慘, 徐咗替CK打工, 日頭有正職, 夜晚仲要做家傭
wingshuk 發表於 2011-9-15 10:03



    寄予無限同情和支持﹗

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點解這個標題變左好似"無間道"
Pineapple 好盡心盡力為屋苑,一d 都唔似2、5。 ...
Ladybird 發表於 2011-9-15 23:56



    這就是呢個POST 好玩之處,看來還是要多謝K1W, wipa, wipa2,辛苦晒,唔該晒﹗

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回復 72# Kit


    Well, lots of responses, and I think apart from a few that stated pineapple can be trusted, the rest are missing the point.

All I want to say is with all the accusations that people with stronger view points serve the interests of fruit daily or political parties, please also be mindful that there are other interests party like CK.

As for the point made about as long as the person is property owner, the person can represent CK's interests (makes me wonder what about other interests), personally I would not want a representative like that. If we are going to have someone represents the interests of property owners, how can the person also at the same time represents the interests of CK. Which is why, I raised the question about pineapple (and others too), they should declare the interests (or lack of interests) in this forum. It's just like at work, you need to declare your interests when you are hiring, when you giving a contract to someone. We appreciate people who put in effort to serve the community, but at the same time, they should also declare whether there is a conflict of interest. This is a question that is commonly asked at work, and when people raise the question, there means no disrespect and people should not feel offended. Frankly, I am very surprise by the responses here. Why are some of the posters here so defensive? And SUPPOSE (just hypothetically, ok?), IF pineapple comes out tomorrow and declare he got paid by CK to monitor the events here in FC, and would you still give the same weight to the things that he said? Would you?

As for Kit's point of keeping negative publicity under control to keep our property value high, at first thought it make sense, but if you think deeper, it really doesn't make sense. Take the example of the high parking fees. I know for a fact a friend did not buy FCII because of the high property fees. If we don't change this policy, it will affect our resale value in the future, plain and simple. I suggest we take stronger protest to CK, MTR, or the outsourced company, but I know Kit will be against that. There is also a moral aspect to this. The argument essentially means we keep the negative points under wrapped (absolutely NO Media or politicians involved), so we can find the next "water fish" to take over our units. Personally I think if everyone thinks like that, there is really no future for Hong Kong.

As for I used different ids, I would like to apologize and I will use this id onwards.

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成日話車場租貴
貴咪唔好租囉,鬼叫人地係業主
自由市場,自由買賣。

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回復  Kit


    Well, lots of responses, and I think apart from a few that stated pineapple can be  ...
wpawpa2k1w 發表於 2011-9-16 03:19



    I agree with your point 'representative should declare his interest/occupation', to avoid embarrassment.  But, not understand why you specially point to 'pineapple c hing'.  
Any suggestion to keep our property fee down ?  I think every FC owner want to know.
淘寶集運 淘寶開箱  淘寶教學

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「我無意在forum 參戰,也無意參選
沒有幫CK 打工,只是一名苦業主,只表達意見,不喜勿插。」

其實我都覺得停車場月租同管理費都幾貴
我想CK 覺得我地"豪"得起,不過我都唔介意平點。

從實際些國度看,減費的機會實在不高
反而我地要監察所"豪"的用得其所!

例如
清潔員工人數、清潔時間表、是否外聘等
座頭姐姐可否提供多些服務,佢是否認得全座住戶
Ladybird

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回復 73# wpawpa2k1w


    I checked Admin's first post and the purpose of this forum is:
希望可以有一個地方比各位名城0既業主討論和交流關於屋苑既事務, 同建立鄰居之間既感情~請各位互相尊重和幫助, 謝謝!!

As long as we could keep in mind that we must respect each individual, expressing personal view should be fine as long as they are factual! If such view touches on personal integrity, smearing techniques should not be tolerated.

Most open fora nowadays has ground rules to ensure discussions are carried out in a civilized manner and treat everyone with respect. Admin may consider adopting these ground rules and publish them so people could reference. Like playing golf, there are etiquette to follow. However, these rules are for ladies and gentlemen. There are just there to remind everyone the rightful behavior and not to police the freedom of speech.

Regarding market value of FC, my opinion is that it is the well manner behavior of the residents and good collective neighborhood that would nurture a reputation and value for FC. Of course, except MTR, no one would say no to lowering maintenance fees. With nearly 4,000 units when the project fully completes, there are bounded to be differences. If one is getting the value for the money spent and the money was spent for the benefits of the majority of the residents, there is really not an issue. Unless someone is pushing his or her avoid-ability level, such fee should not be the only deciding factor either.

I think this thread has side-tracked to never-never-land and we would never get any construction conclusion.

May I suggest admin to lock this thread (not to delete it so people can still view the thread and draw their own conclusions) and reopen a new one so everyone could REALLY discuss the issues that should be raised during the FC Owner's Meeting? The subject of this thread is really confusing for new comer like me!

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